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Did the Trojan War even happen?

From Svenska Dagbladet · () Swedish

Translated from Swedish, summarized and contextualized by DistantNews.

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  • The existence of the Trojan War is uncertain, with archaeological evidence suggesting a city at the site of Troy was destroyed around the traditional date of its fall.
  • The authorship of Homer's epics is also debated, with scholars suggesting they emerged from a long oral tradition possibly involving multiple masters.
  • The epic poems are described as more violent than film adaptations, detailing brutal acts of honor killings and mass executions.

The question of whether the Trojan War actually happened is met with a nuanced "maybe" by scholars. While archaeological findings at the site identified as ancient Troy reveal layers of cities, one appears to have met a dramatic end around the traditional date of Troy's fall, 1184 BCE. Furthermore, letters found in Hittite archives mention a city called "Wilusa," believed to be Troy or Ilion, and conflicts involving figures who might be Greek princes. However, definitive proof remains elusive, and it's acknowledged that while real events may have inspired the epics, they were already perceived as mythological by the time the songs were written down.

The short answer is โ€“ maybe. At the site identified in antiquity as Troy, archaeological remains from several different layers of cities have been found, and some of them met their end in dramatic ways. One of them seems to have perished around the same time as the traditional dating of Troy's fall (1184 BC).

โ€” N/ADiscussing the historical evidence for the Trojan War.

Similarly, the existence of Homer himself is debated. The epics are clearly rooted in a rich oral tradition, but it's possible that one or more master poets, known as Homer, played a role in shaping the poems into their final form. Ultimately, some mysteries, like the precise origins of these epics, may remain fascinating precisely because they lack a definitive answer.

Again โ€“ maybe. The debate has been going on since antiquity and has swung back and forth without a definitive answer. The songs are clearly part of a larger oral tradition with deep roots, but it is very possible that at some point there were one or more masters who went by the name Homer and played a role when the poems we know took their final form.

โ€” N/AAddressing the authorship of Homer's epics.

Regarding the violence depicted, the epic poems are considered even more brutal than their cinematic counterparts. Film adaptations often omit many of the battles and, particularly, the acts of honor killings. For instance, after Odysseus orders the execution of his servants who were too close to Penelope's suitors, Telemachus hangs twelve maids, with the translation noting their "dishonorable death" for bringing "shame upon both our mother's head and my own" by sleeping with the suitors.

If anything โ€“ more. Nolan spares his viewers a lot of battles, and not least the worst brutalities at the end of the book. This applies not least to violence of an honor character.

โ€” N/AComparing the violence in the book versus film adaptations.

The "sea people" mentioned in film adaptations, like Christopher Nolan's interpretation of the Odyssey, are also shrouded in mystery. While theories abound, little is known for certain. The dramatic end of the Mycenaean palace cultures and the Bronze Age saw significant population movements across the eastern Mediterranean. Egyptian inscriptions from the period mention these groups, but their exact identity and role remain subjects of ongoing scholarly discussion.

No! With an honorable death shall they indeed be rewarded, these who heaped shameful disgrace upon both our mother's head and mine when they lustfully slept in the suitors' arms.

โ€” TelemachusDescribing the execution of maids in the Odyssey.
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Originally published by Svenska Dagbladet in Swedish. Translated, summarized, and contextualized by our editorial team with added local perspective. Read our editorial standards.