With Elvis Costello, Elizabeth Strout and Surging Audiences, Brendan O’Connor is Riding High

Brendan O'Connor's weekend radio programs on RTÉ Radio 1 are proving to be a compelling draw, even in an era of abundant media alternatives. Recent episodes featured insightful conversations with musician Elvis Costello and author Elizabeth Strout, highlighting the enduring appeal of in-depth interviews. Costello, while perhaps not outwardly nostalgic, offered a reflective perspective on his extensive catalog and the evolving landscape of radio. He mused on how his 1978 song "Radio Radio," initially a critique of the medium, now carries a "wistfulness" as radio itself has become a "precious, rare commodity."

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That really wouldn’t be an issue now, because radio is seen as a precious, rare commodity these days. Because there’s so many other ways that people can receive things, the whole argument of the song has a sort of wistfulness about it now.

Costello's reflections touched upon the challenges of performing older material today, questioning the appropriateness of songs like "(What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love and Understanding" in the current global climate. He also shared personal anecdotes, discussing his early confrontational persona, his Irish roots, and a less-than-harmonious relationship with Shane MacGowan. O'Connor, recalling seeing Costello on Top of the Pops in the late 1970s, engaged his guest with probing yet admiring questions, creating a fascinating dialogue that resonated with listeners.

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Isn’t it slightly in bad taste right now? Because there’s a lot of people who don’t want it.

The conversation then shifted to more somber territory with Elizabeth Strout. The Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist painted a grim picture of the United States, describing it as "very divided" and permeated by an "undercurrent of fear." Strout elaborated on the anger fueling the MAGA movement, agreeing with O'Connor's suggestion that its supporters feel "humiliated." This frank exchange, characterized by respect despite differing perspectives, was highlighted by Strout as a model of the communication she feels is lacking in contemporary American society.

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The country is very divided, and there’s an undercurrent of fear, because we don’t know what’s going to be happening.

Despite the weighty topics discussed, O'Connor's ability to foster such candid and engaging conversations underscores the continued relevance of thoughtful radio programming. The show's success, evidenced by its ability to attract a diverse audience, demonstrates that well-crafted interviews exploring music, societal issues, and personal histories still hold significant sway.

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Because they feel humiliated?